Cabriolet fuel tank plumbing

Started 26th May 2017 at 16:45 · Richard Salt

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Ever since I have owned this car, when I open the fuel filler cap vapour rushes out with a blast.
I am afraid one day the tank will rupture.
I know that the fuel return line is cooled by the aircon return line, but it doesn’t seem to help.
Possibly someone has connected up the vents (are there any?) incorrectly.
Does anyone have a diagram of all the lines running around the fuel tank, showing where they should all go, so I can check my car?

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- 26th May 2017 at 23:08 #4900
  
  John Bleasdale
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  Hi Richard Every XJS I have owned did that some more than others even my XK8 has done it for 18 years.
- 27th May 2017 at 09:16 #4904
  
  Richard Salt
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  Thanks Bleasie.
  On the right hand side, on top of the petrol tank, is a steel pipe which leads to a little box device which then has a rubber pipe attached to it which leads somewhere inside the car. It is fitted with a round device in the line which I can’t get at.
  I suspect it is a vent.
  Anybody know what it is and where does it go?
- 28th May 2017 at 09:21 #4916
  
  Mark Thorley
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  Hi Richard, is your car a 5.3 or 3.6? Cabriolet or Convertible?
- 28th May 2017 at 16:12 #4923
  
  Richard Salt
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  It’s a V12 5.3l. I have found where most of the pipes go, and their purpose, except for the small connection and box on the rhs top of the tank. The box outlet line cars off towards the passenger compartment and has a disk shaped gadget in it, but I cannot reach it.
  All of this is to try to remove petrol smells.
- 28th May 2017 at 16:13 #4924
  
  Richard Salt
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  It’s a Cabriolet
- 28th May 2017 at 16:21 #4925
  
  Mark Thorley
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  Hi Richard, looking at the Official Jaguar parts Catalogue, from your description it sounds like the Vacuum valve. If exchange of email is allowed here forward it and I’ll forward you a diagram etc
- 29th May 2017 at 17:35 #4935
  
  Richard Salt
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  Hi Paul, all the diagrams I have seen show 3 small pipes coming off the tank at the top rhs.
  Mine has one pipe going to a little box, as I said.
  My email address has been forwarded offline (Laurence)
  A clear diagram of what this pipe does and where it goes will be most useful.
  Thanks
- 29th May 2017 at 17:37 #4936
  
  Richard Salt
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  Sorry, Mark, age must be creeping up – I addressed you as Paul.
  My apologies.
- 29th May 2017 at 22:35 #4945
  
  Mark Thorley
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  Sent you some details Richard
- 2nd June 2017 at 08:50 #5014
  
  Richard Salt
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  This all started with a fuel leak which developed while I was overseas – I came back to find a large pool of petrol under the car, still dripping. It had not been run for 2 months!
  On pulling things apart I found that the hose which leads from the pump to the filter had rotted through at the pump connection. Probably it was the original hose (32 years old) or someone had replaced with the wrong type.
  I decided while I had it apart that I would check a few things so took out the sump (expansion?) tank, to find it contained half a cup of mud-like dirt, – not rust. The metal surface inside is in perfect condition.
  So the dirt is coming in from the main tank, I think it is dirt from the environment or in the fuel.
  I am now going to fit a low pressure fuel filter in the line from the tank to the sump, it should catch all future muck.
  I have been told that all piping in petrol systems should be high pressure (fuel injector) type.
  They are less susceptible to rotting than low pressure types.
- 21st July 2017 at 10:27 #6640
  
  stephen haywood
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  Hi Richard Salt
  
  The vent pipes go from the tank to evaporator small black steel box on top of tank then to plastic round box = Rochester valve this is should relief pressure at 2psi and is open when engine runs it works off vacuum from there it runs down back of tank comes out in front of NS rear wheel if you look all you might see is short steel pipe sticking down its high up .from there it should go to front NS wing back of headlight to carbon canister then pipe purges the canister from NS inlet manifold
  
  On my cabriolet the lines from front of NS rear wheel were missing and no carbon canister inlet manifold blanked off with rubber
  bung. I bypassed the Rochester valve in the boot blanked of vacuum pipe feeding it run line to front NS wing back of headlight installed carbon canister mine came from Rover 25 cost £8 eBay coupled purge line to inlet manifold this is open when engine runs with a 12v valve on canister the canister as a vent line to atmosphere I also have a coupe the lines from the front of rear wheel are missing and inlet manifold blanked off car vets to atmosphere under car front of rear wheel.
  
  Stephen
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